Monday, May 10, 2004

The sobering fact about the Torture business is that we dont have to have moral monsters to get this kind of situation.

A good discussion By James Benjamin on a diary in Daily Kos .. Basically horrifying things can be done by very ordinary people if they are placed in certain circumstances. The basic studies are by Stanley Milgram (of the Obedience Experiments fame) and Phil Zimbardo (of Stanford Prison Experiment fame).

You can get at this site a .PDF of a paper by Phil Zimbardo "Situationist Perspective on the Psychology of Evil: Understanding How Good People Are Transformed Into Perpetrators".

Erwin James ( a lifer in an UK prison' has a critical take on this one... its still teh people who make the prison.

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